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lookin for some cheap lessons around launceston on using sound/lighting desks...
i already no a bit about them as i do a lot of lighting/sound work 4 skool and am interested in pursuing this as a career.....
if any1 is willing to help or no's sum1 who can
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want training for sound/lighting desks
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 04:14 AM
What sort of audio/lighting desks have you used before? Have you had any experience in setting up for shows/concerts/festivals before?
In the Production Industry, you don't start off mixing bands - you progress up to this level based upon your knowledge in the basic principles of stage set-up, sound engineering, etc. People who mix for big name bands (the majority of bigger acts now opt to bring their own audio/lighting operators with them on tour, it saves them the headache of a dodgy sound or visual performance) have earned this job by working their way up from being a humble loader. If you were hoping to start off this way, your best bet would be to pursue a CERT in Audio Engineering at TAFE, but this takes quite a while, and you'll still start from the bottom rung, essentially.
Your best bet is to find a local production company in Launceston who are in need of loaders - people paid to help set up/pack up for all sorts of shows; MSFest, Soundscape, Southern Roots, to name a few. The pay is reasonably good (industry standard is $20 per hour) and it gets your foot in the door. All you need to do is prove you're a capable, eager to work individual and you'll eventually be trusted with operating lighting/audio at smaller-scale shows (pub gigs, speech nights, etc.).
Hope this helps,
Rj.
Source: I work in the industry
In the Production Industry, you don't start off mixing bands - you progress up to this level based upon your knowledge in the basic principles of stage set-up, sound engineering, etc. People who mix for big name bands (the majority of bigger acts now opt to bring their own audio/lighting operators with them on tour, it saves them the headache of a dodgy sound or visual performance) have earned this job by working their way up from being a humble loader. If you were hoping to start off this way, your best bet would be to pursue a CERT in Audio Engineering at TAFE, but this takes quite a while, and you'll still start from the bottom rung, essentially.
Your best bet is to find a local production company in Launceston who are in need of loaders - people paid to help set up/pack up for all sorts of shows; MSFest, Soundscape, Southern Roots, to name a few. The pay is reasonably good (industry standard is $20 per hour) and it gets your foot in the door. All you need to do is prove you're a capable, eager to work individual and you'll eventually be trusted with operating lighting/audio at smaller-scale shows (pub gigs, speech nights, etc.).
Hope this helps,
Rj.
Source: I work in the industry
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Posted 04 July 2009 - 08:32 AM
thanks RJ this was really helpful =)
I have had a bit of experience settin up for gigs and have helped setup/run at some churches but mostly its at school(cause me and 2 other mates are the only ones who no how to use the gear =P ) i do alot of the socials and presentation nites and stuff...
I have had a bit of experience settin up for gigs and have helped setup/run at some churches but mostly its at school(cause me and 2 other mates are the only ones who no how to use the gear =P ) i do alot of the socials and presentation nites and stuff...
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:53 PM
yea me toooo, i want to learn more about dmx programming, I reckon I will go to TAFE or wherever you study for it,
i go to ph3onixs school and our setup is so crap. a good way to get involved is to ask the companies that do it if you can come help at events for experience..... ie:- Frontline or The Sound Company
The production company that does launcestons stuff have plenty of loaders, you will probably have to do it for nothin as they pay heaps of people
i go to ph3onixs school and our setup is so crap. a good way to get involved is to ask the companies that do it if you can come help at events for experience..... ie:- Frontline or The Sound Company
The production company that does launcestons stuff have plenty of loaders, you will probably have to do it for nothin as they pay heaps of people
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:41 PM
While what Rich said is mostly right, there are a few embellishments he left out.
Firstly, being a sound or lighting tech is hard work. As Rich said, first few years, loading, lifting and dragging. Lots of hands on work, and not the nice kind. The whole profession is more of a labor based field than a skill based field. It is rare that you get just a sound guy, or just a lighting guy. You would be expected to be proficient in both lighting, sound, electronics, and a hard worker to boot.
Where my opinion differs with Rich is that I certainly do not recommend finding a production company in need of loaders, I think it's a poor way to get into the industry. The pay doesn't approach $20 an hour for at least a couple of years on a casual basis, and you're basically doing freelance, at your own risk, work. What would be better is to buy a small sound desk yourself, buy a book, and learn the theory. Then try and find a church, or a hall, or a theater with a P.A. or lights who occasionally have functions, and tell them that you're interested in volunteering some of your time to help them out with technical work. This way, you get some valid experience in a calm, stressfree and relatively easy going environment. Getting barked orders by some fat bloke from a production company is guaranteed to turn you off the profession.
I've had both experience doing spot work for production companies, but mostly work in theater. I was briefly trained in lighting design, set and stage. Theater work and gig work are totally different, theater being the better one to start off with.
Firstly, being a sound or lighting tech is hard work. As Rich said, first few years, loading, lifting and dragging. Lots of hands on work, and not the nice kind. The whole profession is more of a labor based field than a skill based field. It is rare that you get just a sound guy, or just a lighting guy. You would be expected to be proficient in both lighting, sound, electronics, and a hard worker to boot.
Where my opinion differs with Rich is that I certainly do not recommend finding a production company in need of loaders, I think it's a poor way to get into the industry. The pay doesn't approach $20 an hour for at least a couple of years on a casual basis, and you're basically doing freelance, at your own risk, work. What would be better is to buy a small sound desk yourself, buy a book, and learn the theory. Then try and find a church, or a hall, or a theater with a P.A. or lights who occasionally have functions, and tell them that you're interested in volunteering some of your time to help them out with technical work. This way, you get some valid experience in a calm, stressfree and relatively easy going environment. Getting barked orders by some fat bloke from a production company is guaranteed to turn you off the profession.
I've had both experience doing spot work for production companies, but mostly work in theater. I was briefly trained in lighting design, set and stage. Theater work and gig work are totally different, theater being the better one to start off with.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:51 PM
Talk to your college/school about what you can do. They're always happy to help as that is what they are there for.
Call around and pickup whatever opportunities, payed or unpayed, that you can grab in other productions. The more people you know the better your chances of finding a good pathway towards what you want.
The University of Tasmania does have some units that touch on the areas you have mentioned, in the contemporary and music arts studies, but nothing exclusively focused on that area. It would be worth calling them though as they have a strong presence with drama up there and I wouldn't be surprised if they would have something for you.
Other good places to contact would also be adult ed, polytechnic and skills institute.
Call around and pickup whatever opportunities, payed or unpayed, that you can grab in other productions. The more people you know the better your chances of finding a good pathway towards what you want.
The University of Tasmania does have some units that touch on the areas you have mentioned, in the contemporary and music arts studies, but nothing exclusively focused on that area. It would be worth calling them though as they have a strong presence with drama up there and I wouldn't be surprised if they would have something for you.
Other good places to contact would also be adult ed, polytechnic and skills institute.
This post has been edited by sm1DDy: 06 July 2009 - 11:16 PM
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:17 AM
The university have actually just canned their time based multimedia degree, which was a shame, if you ever wanted to get into the broadcasting side of things.
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 04:41 PM
Fabian, on 8 Jul 2009, 10:17 AM, said:
The university have actually just canned their time based multimedia degree, which was a shame, if you ever wanted to get into the broadcasting side of things.
Yeah courses are slowly undergoing a restructure and standardization at utas.
Some of the less popular stuff will merge into other degrees or into new ones and become elements of those degrees.
Launceston is the place to be for anything theatre related.
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 09:36 AM
Yeah if you're really serious, NIDA training is the best.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 02:40 PM
Fabian, on 6 Jul 2009, 6:41 PM, said:
What would be better is to buy a small sound desk yourself, buy a book, and learn the theory. Then try and find a church, or a hall, or a theater with a P.A. or lights who occasionally have functions, and tell them that you're interested in volunteering some of your time to help them out with technical work. This way, you get some valid experience in a calm, stressfree and relatively easy going environment. Getting barked orders by some fat bloke from a production company is guaranteed to turn you off the profession.
Duhhhh, I'm such an idiot for forgetting to even mention this!
Scrap what I said Pho3nix, what Fabian said is a much better approach
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